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Tuesday, July 18, 2006

The Reddened Behind


On her blog, Woman Rules Roost, Candace shares her feelings about introducing paddling into her LFA relationship with her husband, Tom. I respect the fact that she is approaching this by asking questions of herself and others before she proceeds. She mentions some of the same concerns I felt when I began to delve into the pain/pleasure arena. How will I know if I've gone too far, how long should I let him moan in pain?

One question haunted me more than any other. How can anyone who loves someone physically hurt them? It took actually experiencing the infliction of pain before I could really grasp this concept. To watch his face as the pain slowly increased, to hear his quickened breathing, and to see his growing erection each time my hand smacked his gorgeous behind.... there was no way I could deny that he was enjoying this. We talked about it each time when we first began delving into that area because I wanted to understand what was going on in his head when it happened and vice versa. For him it was quite a bit about the physical sensation and the release of the endorphins. It also helped to reinforce that I was in control of his body and his mind, something he desparately longed for. For me it was all about that sense of knowing I had yet another way to control him completely during our play time. It wasn't something that appealed to me for frequent use but it was quite erotic when we did.

Adding toys seemed to always bump things up a notch too. We started out using things around the house. I really enjoyed lying next to him, teasingly running my fingertips over his behind and then casually telling him that it was time to go to the kitchen. He knew that meant wooden spoon time and his body would instantly let me know what he thought of that idea. Another fun toy was a tiny whip that is sold as a "penis whip". This was something I enjoyed using when he was bound and helpless. I'd run it along the inside of his thighs until he was squirming and moaning in anticipation and then I'd tease his cock with it. Three or four very gentle taps and he was begging for permission to release. Eventually we progressed to a nice paddle for his behind. Yum that was fun to use as it generates the most delicious sounds - both the smack of the leather as it contacted his flesh and his cries of pain and excitement. Hmm - it's getting warm in here ;) In my current relationship (a long distance one for now), pain is not really something we've broached. We're still busily exploring all the exciting dimensions hypnosis can add to a relationship ;)

In spite of all my enjoyment of inflicting painful pleasure in the past, when considering the use of spanking as a form of discipline for a submissive I admit that I view the issue quite differently than many others in similiar lifestyles. It's difficult for me to fathom that an adult needs a spanking in order to discipline him and teach him to do what I want. Clearly there are people who believe this and I'm not at all saying they are wrong, I just can't understand it or associate it with any of the relationships I've had. In all my relationships, it's usually been more than enough to let him know that he disappointed me, angered me, hurt me, etc. In those few instances that I feel something more is warranted, I prefer to restrict the use of something he enjoys. If he likes experiencing pain, why on earth would I reinforce negative behaviors by giving him what he likes? If he doesn't like it, then there are more effective measures and ones that I associate more in keeping with an adult relationship.

Again, I'm not knocking people who see this differently. I'd enjoy hearing from those of you who disagree should you care to comment.

11 Comments:

At July 18, 2006 , Blogger Davis said...

This never made any sense to me either. I haven't needed spanking since I was 8. The worst punishment I've ever experienced as an adult was seeing my late wife cry.

 
At July 19, 2006 , Anonymous robert said...

i think You make some really good points on the question of "why use this for punishment" - especially the part about rewarding bad behavior by doing something the sub actually enjoys.

i have no experience in this area so i'm surmising that this sort of spicy "play" is not really about classical punishment. But it does seem to reinforce through extensive roleplay and tactile feedback exactly who is in charge.

If this play "punishment" isn't about real punishment, but more about deepening the power exchange, could it be used perhaps in cases where the sub performed well but needs a little fine tuning in performing better?

i can see how it would be fun and erotic in some respects.

robert

 
At July 19, 2006 , Blogger Biff said...

Dear Lady Julia,
This is very helpful. Thank you for sharing your own first-time experiences in corporal punishment. I agree that I don't consider paddling Tom (when I do) a punishment. He wants me to do it, which detracts from any value it has as a method of discipline. Plus, as an adult, I can't see how spanking him gets as much of a message across as honest communication. But that doesn't mean that we can't pretend!

 
At July 19, 2006 , Blogger Lady Julia said...

Davis, I am sorry to read about your wife :(

Robert and Candace, I can completely see where people would want to use this as a form of play to deepen the power exchange. You both made excellent points :) My difficulty in understanding the use of physical punishment as discipline is more with those who profess they must be physically punished to be obedient. If it's the punishment of choice by the Domme and the submissive doesn't like it but accepts it as his punishment, that's one thing. To infer that it is a requirement for an adult to comply with his Mistress' wishes is more difficult for me to understand as it seems to infer that nothing else (like talking, loss of privileges) would work.

 
At July 19, 2006 , Blogger Jackson said...

Pain never sounded so good. :-)

 
At July 19, 2006 , Anonymous jerry said...

It's the weak guys who need spanking. The real men wouldn't.

 
At July 19, 2006 , Anonymous robert said...

Ah, i think i understand your point now. For sub to say "You must paddle me this way before i will be able/willing to obey" does seem suspiciously manipulative.

robert

 
At July 20, 2006 , Blogger Lady Julia said...

Jerry did your name used to be anonymous?

"real men", "real submissives", "real Dommes". Who decides the criteria?

 
At July 21, 2006 , Anonymous Scott said...

Why, real experts, of course.

 
At July 25, 2006 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, I love my lady of many years and I need for her to spank me. Years ago, when I was young and trying to impress her, this would have been the last thing on my mind. Spanking me is one way, though, that she shows her love and affection for me and certainly one way I show my love and respect and appreciation for her.

I think it takes a real man to be vulnerable to his lover, to say, "I deeply need this." When I do this, I strip away facade, pretense, pride. I endure the embarrassment of baring my bottom, going over her lap, and taking what she deems necessary. This is one way we express our mutual devotion in a most intimate way.

jm

 
At July 25, 2006 , Blogger jacob said...

To say you need for her to spank you makes me ask the question, what will happen if she doesn't?

Your need doesn't sound like a requirement for you to behave as you've been asked. It sounds like some psychological or emotional need. That appears to be different from what Lady Julia was addressing.

 

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